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Post by Vengeful Anarchists on Oct 18, 2009 7:36:37 GMT -5
Charity Shop Bling has asked me to post here a suggestion to Liberate Nazi Europe from racial hatred. The idea is this, they are unable to impose a password and lose a potentially useful tool to defend themselves. This could result in an invasion if their founder was to cease to exist (s/he hasn't logged on for 20 days), or just having to face up to greater criticism of their arguments.
Obviously it would have to well-worded as the WA is a bit sick of voting on Nazi Europe, but it may be accomplishable.
Your thoughts?
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Post by eyeries on Oct 18, 2009 13:09:09 GMT -5
I quite like this idea, we shot give it a shot
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Post by Vengeful Anarchists on Oct 20, 2009 14:58:07 GMT -5
Me too, but how should it be worded and how could we convince people that it should pass?
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Post by anarchocommunism on Nov 5, 2009 20:22:55 GMT -5
I'm not necessarily against invading Nazi Europe - but I'll only support it if we have a good reason. What are our reasons for wanting to invade them? How much of a threat are they to everyone else? And will invading them actually pacify them? I tend to think it will just lead to higher tensions. But tell me I'm wrong if you think so - and word your reasons strongly. I won't cry. This is what we'll have to write up if we propose it to the WA, so convincing us in the AASU is the first draft.
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Post by Vengeful Anarchists on Nov 9, 2009 16:14:24 GMT -5
Nazi Europe did invade us, although I agree that revenge is not useful and that is not why I think they should be attacked. If we (or a hypothetical left-wing group as we are too small) invaded Nazi Europe and let them survive, we would face a barrage of attacks from them after they recovered, this would make things worse. However, it is possible to destroy regions and completely burn them to the ground. Genesis Defense Project (who Charity Shop Bling is a member of) have done this to dozens of Nazi regions over the years (I don't know exactly how many). Nasty Europe (geddit?) is a threat as they are attempting to invade regions such as ours, although I don't know the full extent of what they get up to (again, our friends in the Genesis Defense Project can help us here).
The proposal doesn't centre around invasion, they have a founder so it's only possible if he ceases to exist, but it is about making a statement via the WA that we can stand up to racial intolerance.
My reasons for wanting to destroy them are quite simple, they promote racial hatred (although they sometimes claim otherwise, just look at the threads on the NS forum about condemning them) and this could quite easily be resulting in a higher incidence of racially motivated attacks in real life. You may find this difficult to believe, but every time the BNP get more publicity or get elected to a public office, the incidence of racist attacks goes up in that area, it is proven.
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